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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/249Oct 14 00:01
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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/251Oct 14 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Adorno Returns - Existential ComicsOct 14 06:10
superkuhWow. You went there. A long point by point comparison of RMS and Jesus.Oct 14 06:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129249 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0590a633-e659-4a51-9e49-08c2f5931ecb]Oct 14 06:20
oiaohmsuperkuh: https://stallman.org/saint.htmlOct 14 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Saint IGNUcius - Richard StallmanOct 14 06:21
superkuhYeah, it's a fun joke.Oct 14 06:22
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1906277Oct 14 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectOct 14 06:23
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629391.jpgOct 14 06:47
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schestowitzlol stock photography Oct 14 06:56
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jagadeeshttps://thetech.com/2019/10/03/liberal-outrage-white-supremacy-epsteinOct 14 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thetech.com | Liberal outrage and white supremacy: the case of Epstein | The TechOct 14 07:18
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/10/13/takeover-by-monopolies/Oct 14 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Widespread Adoption” (Did You Mean: Takeover by Monopolies?) | TechrightsOct 14 07:18
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629441.jpgOct 14 07:33
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jagadeesUse and throw culture based on lies can't be coming from Free Software philosophyOct 14 08:09
jagadeeshttps://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/14/use-and-throw-culture-based-on-lies-cant-be-coming-from-free-software-philosophy/Oct 14 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Use and throw culture based on lies can’t be coming from Free Software philosophy – neritamOct 14 08:09
schestowitzjagadees: cheersOct 14 08:11
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629501.jpgOct 14 08:11
jagadeestyOct 14 08:12
schestowitz Michael Moor is  Michael MooreOct 14 08:12
jagadeesty i will correct itOct 14 08:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF and GNU | Tux MachinesOct 14 08:15
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/29/ad2c67cbd0315850.jpgOct 14 08:33
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schestowitzIn Gawker's words: "there's plenty of pictures from gatherings of scientists that Epstein has hosted on his private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Here he is with former Microsoft chief technology officer Nathan Myhrvold, for instance. There are also shots of Stephen Hawking hanging out on Epstein's dime."Oct 14 09:47
schestowitzCan you give me links/more information about this, please? We've long researched him... <a href="#top">█</a>Oct 14 09:47
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zoobabNathan Myhrvold?Oct 14 10:06
schestowitzyesOct 14 10:13
schestowitzwent to pedovilleOct 14 10:13
schestowitzI've just done a followup story http://techrights.org/2019/10/14/microsoft-on-thin-ice/Oct 14 10:14
schestowitzhe's mentioned towards the endOct 14 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No Calls to “Remove Gates” From the Board (Over a Real Scandal/Crime), Only to “Remove Stallman” (Over Phony Distraction From the Former) | TechrightsOct 14 10:14
schestowitzzoobab: he >might< be a pedo, but based on the context proof is lackingOct 14 10:15
schestowitzunlike with gatesOct 14 10:15
schestowitzhe's almost certainly a pedophile based on what he himself wroteOct 14 10:15
schestowitzNY Times published about that on Saturday nightOct 14 10:15
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16235049Oct 14 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #billgates is miles worse than Bill Clinton and CosbyOct 14 10:17
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oiaohmschestowitz: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/bill-gates/  You need to read the time line here a lot more carefully.   Yes Gates is still on the Microsoft board but he is no longer the chairman.    The overlap the timelines  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_EpsteinOct 14 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Bill Gates - StoriesOct 14 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jeffrey Epstein - WikipediaOct 14 11:21
oiaohmschestowitz: 2008 when Epstein gets charged Bill gates reduces his role in the company.   2014 when victims charges turn up with Epstein the result is Bill Gates no longer Chairman of board who can make executive actions. Oct 14 11:23
oiaohmschestowitz: Stallman being removed from FSF president position is in line with what happened to Bill Gates.Oct 14 11:23
oiaohmOf course Bill Gates with Microsoft PR was attempting to avoid being pulled though the media ringer.Oct 14 11:24
oiaohmschestowitz: lot of people miss that Bill Gates changes in position inside Microsoft line up with the Epstein criminal cases.Oct 14 11:27
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schestowitz[11:27] <oiaohm> schestowitz: lot of people miss that Bill Gates changes in position inside Microsoft line up with the Epstein criminal cases.Oct 14 16:09
schestowitzhow so?Oct 14 16:09
schestowitzCan you line up the timeline?Oct 14 16:09
schestowitzhe become Board and not CEO ages agoOct 14 16:09
schestowitz*becameOct 14 16:10
oiaohmschestowitz: Bill gates stopped being chairman of the board  feb 2014 and came a normal board member.      That lines up with the case that shows up latter that year.Oct 14 16:14
oiaohmAlso June 27, 2008 is when Bill gates pull back from being involved in day to day activities of Microsoft as well.   That lines up with what you would expect to have happened after February 6, 2008 Epstein case.Oct 14 16:15
oiaohmschestowitz: yes 2000 Bill gates stopped being CEO and came Chairman of the board of Microsoft.   That really did not change his day to day control of operations that much.Oct 14 16:16
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oiaohmUSA business law Bill Gates could not hold chairman of the board and be CEO of the company at the same time.Oct 14 16:16
oiaohmschestowitz: basically 2000 was a form of promotion.Oct 14 16:17
oiaohm2008 and 2014 were both demotions.Oct 14 16:17
schestowitzhmmmOct 14 16:18
schestowitzinterestingOct 14 16:18
schestowitzwhat were the official motivations given to the mediaOct 14 16:18
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oiaohmschestowitz:  Gates transitioned out of a day-to-day role in the company to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Gates continues to serve on Microsoft’s board of directors and as an advisor on key development projects. << that the 2008 one.Oct 14 16:19
schestowitz(it's starting to sound more plausible when you put it like that, Sinofsky also left and he's Epstein-connected)Oct 14 16:19
schestowitznothing says "global health" like trafficking kidsOct 14 16:19
oiaohmIt not like in his position he had to move in 2008 to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.Oct 14 16:20
oiaohmMelinda had been managing it quite well without him.Oct 14 16:20
oiaohmThe 2008 change reasoning does not read solid at all.Oct 14 16:20
oiaohmHe served as chairman of the board until Feb. 4, 2014.  << that is all they say about chairman.Oct 14 16:21
oiaohmNo reason at all just he stepped down.Oct 14 16:21
oiaohmremember board member has no direct operational control for management where chairman did.Oct 14 16:22
oiaohmschestowitz: basically reading that back history it does not read solid at all.   So I cannot say that Bill gates was not punished particular when you look at the timeline of events.Oct 14 16:23
oiaohmOf course Microsoft managed the media doing the change a lot better.Oct 14 16:24
schestowitzlinks?Oct 14 16:26
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oiaohmschestowitz: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/bill-gates/  that the Microsoft bill gates write up that have the 2008 and feb 2014 dates and those sections of text I used.Oct 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Bill Gates - StoriesOct 14 16:27
schestowitzok, let me clarifyOct 14 16:28
schestowitzI need any links that better explain this connectionOct 14 16:28
schestowitze.g. if shareholders discussed pedophilia as a factorOct 14 16:28
oiaohmthat is my problem about those changes.Oct 14 16:29
schestowitzOtherwise my sole source is some anon aussie all I know about is that he's a tech, slightly autistic  and very tall (I don't even know your name)Oct 14 16:29
schestowitzcan you check dates of these thingsOct 14 16:29
schestowitzsentences, departuresOct 14 16:29
schestowitzBoard meeting minutes etc.?Oct 14 16:30
schestowitzMaybe we can work in reverse, but it would take lots of digging to prove a correlation so many years laterOct 14 16:30
oiaohmThat the thing there are no public board meeting minutes and there is no real shareholder discucssion of why those changes.Oct 14 16:30
oiaohmNothing about those leaking is also kind strange.Oct 14 16:32
schestowitzwell, so good luck guessingOct 14 16:33
schestowitzI'd rather discuss what's known, not speculatedOct 14 16:33
oiaohmIts why not to push that bill gates has not been punished to hard.   The timelines say something could be hidden their we don't know.Oct 14 16:34
oiaohmschestowitz: I was not giving you this really to write a piece it more a heads up that there could be something there that could make you look like a jackass if unknown information happens to be a particular way.Oct 14 16:35
oiaohmNow asking for clarification on the 2008 and 2014 changes in bill gates position may be a safer move. Oct 14 16:36
oiaohmschestowitz: there are better examples of parties at the top other than bill gates that have not been punished yet with work histories that don't show the possibility of being punished.Oct 14 16:39
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oiaohmschestowitz: Remember its also a speculation that Bill Gates as not punished.   The evidence we have access does not say Bill Gates was absolutely punished but the evidence we have access to also does not say he was not punished.Oct 14 16:45
oiaohmSpeculation gets media into trouble.Oct 14 16:45
schestowitzif you want to air thisOct 14 16:49
schestowitz(not just in IRC logs)Oct 14 16:50
schestowitzthen please add some links to make a timelineOct 14 16:50
schestowitzotherwise, while seemingly plausible, there's little in terms of substance to support what you claim happenedOct 14 16:50
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oiaohmschestowitz: problem is there is little in term of substance to Bill Gates got of scott free was well that you pushed in one write up as well.   I think it a area that should be just classed as unknown for now.Oct 14 17:01
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decnet....................................Oct 14 20:17
schestowitz^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^hOct 14 20:17
decnet"Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000"Oct 14 20:17
decnethttps://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2019/10/apple-of-2019-is-linux-of-2000.html?utm_source=diggOct 14 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew - a gathering of development thoughts: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000Oct 14 20:17
schestowitzyupOct 14 20:18
schestowitzI saw it this morningOct 14 20:18
MinceRthe year of the macos desktop?Oct 14 20:18
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scientesstupidOct 14 20:19
scientesyes, Linux is the only OS that supports any hardwareOct 14 20:19
decnetHe sounds pissed :]Oct 14 20:19
scientesit has been that way for over a decadeOct 14 20:20
MinceRthe author sounds like he tried to use GNU/Linux without any understanding and that's of course the kernel's faultOct 14 20:20
scientesand will only continue if people continue doing the workOct 14 20:20
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schestowitzI think you misunderstood the postOct 14 20:22
schestowitzhe mocks Apple and its fansOct 14 20:22
decnetWho was once said the best way of defeating something was to join it and subvert it from this inside?Oct 14 20:23
decnetJames Pal .. something?Oct 14 20:24
decnetJames Plamondon:" I talked about how you’re using the pawns and you’re going to screw them if they don’t do what you want" http://techrights.org/2008/11/15/microsoft-guerrilla-people-monsters/Oct 14 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | James Plamondon: Microsoft Guerrilla | TechrightsOct 14 20:26
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decnethttps://blog.regolit.com/files/f/MS-Evangelism.pdfOct 14 20:29
MinceRalso, did Linux disable USB ports on laptops in 2000 or something?Oct 14 20:29
decnetfor device in $(ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/product); do echo $device;cat $device;doneOct 14 20:36
decnetecho suspend | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/levelOct 14 20:36
decnetecho on | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/levelOct 14 20:36
decnet"Microsoft Joins Academy Software Foundation as a Premier Member" https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/2019/09/microsoft-joins-academy-software-foundation-as-a-premier-member/Oct 14 20:37
decnet“At Microsoft, our mission is to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more, and it’s this mission that drives our commitment to open source,”Oct 14 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Microsoft Joins Academy Software Foundation as a Premier Member - The Linux FoundationOct 14 20:37
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decnetAs usual what they are really about is co-opting mind-share in the public mind for 'Microsoft Open Source'Oct 14 20:38
schestowitztechrights covered this several timesOct 14 20:40
schestowitzmaybe you saw those articlesOct 14 20:40
schestowitzand yes, t's sntryism, classicOct 14 20:40
decnetI did, I do read the artiles !Oct 14 20:40
schestowitzyou missed the better quoteOct 14 20:41
schestowitzabout them buying the seatOct 14 20:41
schestowitzthis is what this money was all about, the searOct 14 20:41
schestowitzseatOct 14 20:41
schestowitzlater more was discovered about theseOct 14 20:41
schestowitzbut I forgot he detailsOct 14 20:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/10/14/linux-foundation-board-meeting/ Oct 14 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Board Meeting | TechrightsOct 14 20:41
decnetWhat's the 'Linux Kernel Mentorship Program' and does it have any relation to Linus Torvalds' Linux Kernel?Oct 14 20:44
decnethttps://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2019/09/the-linux-kernel-mentorship-is-life-changing/Oct 14 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Kernel Mentorship is Life Changing - The Linux FoundationOct 14 20:44
decnet"Before learning of the Linux Kernel Mentorship Program, I was interested in learning how to contribute to the Linux kernel, but didn’t know how and where to start"Oct 14 20:45
decnetHow about contributing code to the Linux Kernel?Oct 14 20:45
schestowitzhahaOct 14 20:47
schestowitzget a degree in CS or similarOct 14 20:47
schestowitzOROct 14 20:47
schestowitzself-taught programming at homeOct 14 20:47
schestowitzjoin a company that does kernel patchesOct 14 20:47
schestowitzwork your way upOct 14 20:47
schestowitzWINOct 14 20:47
schestowitzBut no... instead let's pay Zemlin and his marketing colleagues for a piece of paperOct 14 20:48
schestowitzand if Linus reject your code, call him rude and sexisyOct 14 20:48
schestowitz*sexistOct 14 20:48
schestowitzeventually, only Linux Kernel Mentorship Program grads will do Linux patchesOct 14 20:48
schestowitzand the quality of the kernel will reach new lowsOct 14 20:49
decnet"Steps for contributing to the Linux Kernel" .. "send the patch using email  .. To know the list of maintainers"Oct 14 20:49
decnethttps://opensource.com/article/18/8/first-linux-kernel-patchOct 14 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steps for contributing to the Linux Kernel | Opensource.comOct 14 20:49
schestowitzkaniini: same issue as yesterday?Oct 14 20:50
decnetSo, is "The Linux foundation" totally compromised?Oct 14 20:50
kaniinino this is incompetent remote handsOct 14 20:50
*schestowitz does not believe in totalitiesOct 14 20:50
kaniinii asked about replacing the PDU this evening in a coordinated way and they just went and did itOct 14 20:51
schestowitzkaniini: oh, reliefOct 14 20:51
schestowitzkaniini: that thing about crypto mining was alarmingOct 14 20:51
schestowitzkaniini: maybe I can even help somehow?Oct 14 20:51
kaniinihehOct 14 20:52
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kaniininot reallyOct 14 20:54
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kaniinias someone just saidOct 14 20:55
kaniiniI don't pay for remote brainsOct 14 20:55
kaniinionly the handsOct 14 20:55
schestowitzyou mistakenly hired zombies for Halloween... brainzzzzOct 14 20:56
schestowitzkaniini: is viera on the way back?Oct 14 20:57
kaniinigive me a moment.Oct 14 20:58
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kaniiniok it is backOct 14 21:00
schestowitzcheers !!Oct 14 21:00
kaniinii should actually write a proper init script for vieraOct 14 21:02
schestowitzsystemd to the rescured [sic]Oct 14 21:03
kaniinithen it would just automatically come backOct 14 21:03
kaniiniright now, it runs under tmuxOct 14 21:03
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kaniinithereOct 14 21:07
kaniininow it runs under supervise-daemon(8)Oct 14 21:07
kaniinimuch better :)Oct 14 21:07
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decnetWhat's supervise-daemon(8) in reference to, it's like listening to only one side of the conversation?Oct 14 21:10
decnetGood Grief "Linux Foundation Director Uses Mac OSX?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBFlU7Cy3fMOct 14 21:12
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XRevan86decnet: kaniini configured a daemon to run under itOct 14 21:12
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kaniinijust checking to make sure it will come back on a rebootOct 14 21:12
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XRevan86and so it hasOct 14 21:13
kaniinineat :)Oct 14 21:13
decnetkaniini: what comes back, explain!Oct 14 21:13
XRevan86(2012:36) viera left ze room (Remote host closed the connection).Oct 14 21:13
XRevan86(20:13:06) viera entered ze roomOct 14 21:13
scientes"ze"?Oct 14 21:14
XRevan86da roomOct 14 21:14
MinceRdon't misgender ze room :>Oct 14 21:14
schestowitzauf wiedersehenOct 14 21:16
scientesahhh, what is with tickets without any luggage!Oct 14 21:17
scientesand no option of carry-onOct 14 21:17
scienteswho the hell can travel without clothes?Oct 14 21:17
MinceRmaybe the idea is that you just take a credit card, buy clothes where you go, and throw them in the trash before you go homeOct 14 21:18
schestowitzwear a big coarOct 14 21:18
schestowitz*coatOct 14 21:18
schestowitzuse layers as secondary sett :-)Oct 14 21:19
schestowitzor put them in a Duty Free plastic bag LOLOct 14 21:19
scientesno clothes. travel to russia. great ideaOct 14 21:19
schestowitznudist Siberian beach in summertimeOct 14 21:19
schestowitzscientes: sarcasm side...Oct 14 21:20
schestowitzsome couples travelOct 14 21:20
kaniiniare you going to russia to help rig the next US electionOct 14 21:20
schestowitzsometimes one can rely on the partner's cargo and doesn't need extra luggageOct 14 21:20
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629307.jpgOct 14 21:24
decnetHave I de-phased into invisibility, like in that episode of Voyager "Distant Origin"Oct 14 21:24
kaniinithat was TNGOct 14 21:25
XRevan86That was indeed TNGOct 14 21:25
decnethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_OriginOct 14 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Distant Origin - WikipediaOct 14 21:25
decnetThe two aliens sneek onto the Bridge using a phazing device.Oct 14 21:26
MinceRcrew remains unphazed.Oct 14 21:26
decnetHaaar!Oct 14 21:26
schestowitzhaarOct 14 21:26
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/Oct 14 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Looney Tunes – Part 2: The “Difficult Legacy” and Its Dark Historical Shadow | TechrightsOct 14 21:27
schestowitzarrr arrr arrrOct 14 21:27
XRevan86I thought about that episode with Ro LarenOct 14 21:27
decnetSpeaking of air-travel: if you stayed on the plane, it would be cheaper than the cost of hotel fair at either destination :]Oct 14 21:28
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_PhaseOct 14 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Next Phase - WikipediaOct 14 21:29
MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/253Oct 14 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Utilitarian Calculator - Existential ComicsOct 14 21:29
decnetStar Trek: Voyager last episode broadcast in 2001, that long ago, didn't catch it the first time round, was traveling a lot.Oct 14 21:31
decnetAnyone catch 'The Expanse'?Oct 14 21:32
decnethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series)Oct 14 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Expanse (TV series) - WikipediaOct 14 21:32
XRevan86decnet: I haveOct 14 21:33
XRevan86decnet: Good stuff.Oct 14 21:33
decnetYea, there's a lot of derivative stuff in there, but they put it together in interesting ways.Oct 14 21:35
decnetAlso 'Dark Matter' was good, except they cancelled it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Matter_(TV_series)Oct 14 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dark Matter (TV series) - WikipediaOct 14 21:39
XRevan86decnet: And it ended on a cliff-hanger.Oct 14 21:39
decnetThere's an episode in it wherre, if you want to travel they construct a body-double at the other end and download a copy of your mind into it. At the end of the holiday, your new mmories are uploaded into your mind and the body is destroyed.Oct 14 21:40
XRevan86How Dark Matter ended: "We are in deep shit!", then https://youtu.be/sgQtkJIX2zEOct 14 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Парам парам пам (Ералаш) - YouTubeOct 14 21:40
decnetExcept if the body gets killed, and it also has a limited lifespan. Douglas Adams would of been proud of the scriot :]Oct 14 21:41
decnetCorrection: "if the body gets killed" then you lose the memories - but no refunds :]Oct 14 21:43
decnetThis f*****g keyboard is crap and it isn't even old. I want one of those old IBM clunky keyboards!Oct 14 21:46
MinceRCherry MX Blue > buckling sprintOct 14 21:47
MinceRs/nt/ng/Oct 14 21:47
*XRevan86 hasn't changed a keyboard in years.Oct 14 21:47
XRevan86Alas it needs cleaning, permanentlyOct 14 21:47
MinceRwhat's permanent cleaning like?Oct 14 21:49
XRevan86MinceR: A permanent *need* in cleaningOct 14 21:49
MinceR:)Oct 14 21:49
XRevan86A week after I cleaned it, it needed cleaning.Oct 14 21:49
decnetNew series of Mr. Robot back, not that anyone here bares any similarity to 'Elliot Alderson' :]Oct 14 21:58
decnetgtg ..................Oct 14 22:00
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MinceRhttps://www.chinalawblog.com/2019/09/chinas-new-cybersecurity-program-no-place-to-hide.htmlOct 14 22:09
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dyfet@schestowitz while I did notice you had a story about suse and openstack, I think it misses an additional context, which is "suseexit"; this is the process of opensuse separating itself from suse, something they are doing while there is currently non-hostile ownership, even going so far as to consider dropping the "suse" name from opensuse, as their principle connection remains trademarks.  I suspect this plays into the Oct 14 22:32
dyfetopenstack retreat, though I am not sure how.Oct 14 22:32
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dyfetI did find a thread about it on their public mailing list, and in it they are very clear that at least one of the driving motivations is a concern over possible (future) adverse changes in suse ownership; I could understand that clearly.Oct 14 22:40
dyfet(any possible), I did not get the impression they believed anything specific was imminent, but given the history...I do get suseexit.Oct 14 22:43
cubexyzPlamondon deserves his place on the list of Microsoft jerksOct 14 23:21
cubexyzmany other examples of courseOct 14 23:22
cubexyzthe M$ environment was pretty caustic Oct 14 23:22
dyfetPlamondon?Oct 14 23:24
cubexyzdyfet, it's kind of old newsOct 14 23:24
cubexyzhe was a M$ evangelist in the 1990sOct 14 23:25
cubexyzI think decent mentioned him recentlyOct 14 23:25
cubexyzdecnetOct 14 23:25
dyfetOh, okay...I never knew those people, i think thankfullyOct 14 23:25
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/list-of-microsoft-jerks.txtOct 14 23:26
cubexyzthere's a reader's digest version :)Oct 14 23:26
dyfetgotchaOct 14 23:27
cubexyzthey would go around to different developers conferences and actively discourage any non-M$ developmentOct 14 23:28
cubexyzso Mac, Unix, etc, would get this treatment.. very common in the mid-1990sOct 14 23:28
dyfetin the mid 90's i was fairly isolated doing telephony on gnu/linux, so i guess i missed much of thatOct 14 23:29
cubexyzyeah the first Halloween document was leaked around oct 1998Oct 14 23:30
cubexyzit was a bad time for computing I'd sayOct 14 23:30
dyfetthat i do recallOct 14 23:30
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oiaohmcubexyz: the horrible part is how successful those jerks were at what they were upto.Oct 14 23:58

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