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Re: Debian-private and people who are working on other distributions



bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)  wrote on 28.05.97 in <m0wWyBw-00IdetC@golem.pixar.com>:

> My opinion is that people who are working on other distributions should
> probably voluntarily remove themsleves from the debian-private
> subscription list. I see a pretty clear ethical conflict. Can I hear
> discussion on this, please?

I think that's entirely dependant on the details.

Suppose someone packages some software for Debian, packages the same  
software for RedHat, and is on more-or-less internal lists for both.

As long as [s]he doesn't go shopping with what [s]he learns on those  
internal lists, I don't see a problem.

Now suppose that the chief marketing guy for RedHat is on debian-private,  
and releases an announcement on cola pointing out some discussions here so  
RedHat looks better. Very obvious problem here.

There's all possible shades in between. It's really hard to solve in  
general.

Personally, I'd prefer people to notice conflicts of interests themselves  
- regardless what specific points those are related to, other  
distributions is just one possibility - and either directly sign off in  
that case, or ask what people feel about it.

As with all ethical problems, this won't always work right.


MfG Kai


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