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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "This is another reason I no longer read sites like Hacker News. Once you recognise this pattern of pedantry and obtuseness, it’s impossible not to see it in many of the comments, even if the authors aren’t aware they’re doing it." https://rubenerd.com/if-you-want-to-understand-reality-dont-be-pedantic/Sep 26 03:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Rubenerd: If you want to understand reality, don’t be pedanticSep 26 03:24
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Social Media Has the Same Downsides As Alcohol - The Atlantic ⚓ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/ ䷉ Source: The Atlantic | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/Sep 26 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theatlantic.com | Social Media Has the Same Downsides As Alcohol - The AtlanticSep 26 03:39
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Excess Deaths in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/Sep 26 04:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Excess Deaths in England and Wales – Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far)Sep 26 04:36
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Survival After COVID-19 Takes More Than 4 Weeks (the 'Gold Standard' for Measuring Fatalities' Correlation and Cause) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-long-term/Sep 26 05:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Survival After COVID-19 Takes More Than 4 Weeks (the ‘Gold Standard’ for Measuring Fatalities’ Correlation and Cause)Sep 26 05:18
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> COVID-19 Spreads Very Freely This Past Summer https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/percent-of-people-testing-positive/Sep 26 05:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Spreads Very Freely This Past SummerSep 26 05:25
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the Brain https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/post-covid-alzheimers/Sep 26 06:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the BrainSep 26 06:29
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> UK Data: COVID-19 Infections Still Worse This Month Than the Same Time Two Years Ago https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-infections/Sep 26 06:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Data: COVID-19 Infections Still Worse This Month Than the Same Time Two Years AgoSep 26 06:31
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schestowitz-TRmy dad has a 80l tankSep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRwith some trulty massive fishSep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRi spoke to him about it yesterdaySep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRwe adopted another approachSep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRof 'hosing' out the dirty water and adding fresher but pre-treated (days ahead) Sep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRwe have some ready for wednesday since fridaySep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRthe potions help add bacteria that eats up the poo and releases gasesSep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRrianne is still reading up on itSep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TRgreening also caused by direct sunlight latelySep 26 07:15
schestowitz-TR----Sep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRchange of subject: atm in irc we talk about the new dementia studySep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRdated days agoSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRit takes years to collect data on cause and effetc for split sibject groupsSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRso now we can see what covid-19 doesSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TR(set aside vaccine; it's a bit of a red herring)Sep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRi realise now some friends envy our approachSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRwe keps naturally health by isolating Sep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRand found a way to still do the key activitiesSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRnot sure how much longer we can keep at itSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRbut I am hungry for informationSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRIreckon one hour per week writing/reading about it is better than 100 hours in bedSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TRagonising and having no way backSep 26 07:20
schestowitz-TR--Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRall it takes is one small mistakeSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRand then a steep curve in health risk/harmSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRtbh, i don't spent much time tracking all thisSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRi did a lot of stats as a student and this is very basic Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRthat john campbell reaches the same conclusions indpendently more or less validates Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRwhat I'be been seeing and writing aboutSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRbut I'm not on social control mediaSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRso I cannot be "warned" or "cautioned" or "suspended" anymoreSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRthe first link I sent along shows that start hiding even death-related dataSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRI reckon they will go to great lengths to suppress statistics 101Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRgoing through the raw data:Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRhttps://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/Sep 26 07:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Excess Deaths in England and Wales – Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far)Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRmaybe this is the next thing to be culled or manipulatedSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRlike that weekly report that just 'vanished' without prior warningSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRin start of July when there was a surgeSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRI am upset about this, but have not contacted my MP Sep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRthey're a lot less powerless than people are led to believeSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRthey're like one among hundreds who are just temporarily thereSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TRhaving maybe 20 seconds to interject a sound boteSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TR*biteSep 26 07:34
schestowitz-TR--Sep 26 07:36
schestowitz-TRi may or may have have mentioned it yesterday, my my athelete friend had to see knee specialistSep 26 07:36
schestowitz-TRand get special treatment "2 weeks" after the vaccine (I only found our yesterday)Sep 26 07:36
schestowitz-TRand my other good friend had the same thing, so when he told me I called rianne over and told herSep 26 07:36
schestowitz-TRshe needed to hear it (that's 2 out of 2); but they work in an office enviropnment, so cannot isolate fullySep 26 07:36
Techrights-secoffices usually have exceptionally poor ventilation and sanitation these daysSep 26 07:49
schestowitz-TRthen there is "hot-desking", which is gross and likely meant to lessen moraleSep 26 07:50
schestowitz-TRlessen chance of building solidarity, unions, friendshipsSep 26 07:50
Techrights-secthat's even worse since hot desking is not only filthy but about ensuringSep 26 07:51
Techrights-secthat the employees do not have and are unable to acquire/retain any of theSep 26 07:51
Techrights-secphysical artifacts necessary to do or supplement their workSep 26 07:51
schestowitz-TRi wanted to say earlier, but dreaded the prospect of overruning your scrollback bufferSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRI still remember the first warning we got re astrazenecaSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRI wrote about this in the gym and emailed myselfSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRalso, the media has since then been on a massive voice-suppression campaignSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRpeople need to whisper about it for fear Sep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRand then you have social control media, where everything is under surveillanceSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRand during lockdowns it's the only thing people usedSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRit shows that, like FB 'experiments', they already dabble in mass manipulation of "consensus"Sep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRa la conflictsSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TReven in the streets (new laws here)Sep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRthen you have wannabe irckkkops lurking in irc networksSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRfreenode asideSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRthey know no boundariesSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRbut lecture people about "boundaries"Sep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRI totally support medicine, modern medicineSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRbut I reject oppression against speech, which itself is needed for proper researchSep 26 07:58
schestowitz-TRor even a shift away from fossil fuelsSep 26 07:58
Techrights-secyesSep 26 07:59
Techrights-secand that silence has been exploited and used to push strawman argumentsSep 26 07:59
Techrights-secby associating any questions with anti-vax whackosSep 26 07:59
Techrights-secackSep 26 08:00
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Techrights-sechttps://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/Sep 26 10:13
Techrights-sec^oldSep 26 10:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/ )Sep 26 10:13
schestowitz-TRhust ran around the stadium againSep 26 10:13
schestowitz-TRwent to the storeSep 26 10:13
schestowitz-TRbefore the sun vanishesSep 26 10:13
schestowitz-TRwill post links, then  record in bulkSep 26 10:13
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schestowitz-TROTA (btw, I'm reasonablly sue it's irc that's costing me hours per day; but no guilt, irc too is important)Sep 26 12:35
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schestowitz-TRrecording 6 videosSep 26 14:09
schestowitz-TRit's a bit difficult to be frankSep 26 14:09
schestowitz-TRthe topics change fastSep 26 14:09
schestowitz-TRi will try this a few times more and then see if I find a way to copeSep 26 14:09
schestowitz-TRgoing to start encoding and writing nowSep 26 14:09
Techrights-secackSep 26 14:26
schestowitz-TRrianne was also walking around here doing the clothes/laundrySep 26 14:30
schestowitz-TRwhich contributed to distractionSep 26 14:30
schestowitz-TRI'll try the same again tomorrowSep 26 14:30
Techrights-secackSep 26 14:30
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 26 14:33
schestowitz-TR(should we ever use the word "boycott" in relation tro ubuntu?)Sep 26 14:33
Techrights-sec(probably not just yet, but it is certainly appropriate to steer to other Sep 26 14:33
Techrights-secDebian derivatives nowadays and, when possible, even Devuan derivatives.)Sep 26 14:33
schestowitz-TRthere are not many microsofeters in canonical (that I know of)Sep 26 14:34
schestowitz-TRRed Hat is worseSep 26 14:34
Techrights-secThere are at least a few, and placed in influential posts.Sep 26 14:40
schestowitz-TRpossible task: make a list from the corporate siteSep 26 14:41
schestowitz-TRcheck their cv one at a timeSep 26 14:41
schestowitz-TRshould be.... intereestingSep 26 14:41
Techrights-secFew microsofters post their CVs anymore, and those that do somehow manageSep 26 14:47
Techrights-secto omit incriminating employementSep 26 14:47
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schestowitz-TRi did a video about this (4 ou of 6, iirc)Sep 26 14:48
schestowitz-TRin relation to linkedinSep 26 14:48
schestowitz-TRthe last public v of mine is very old, 20+ yearsSep 26 14:48
schestowitz-TR*cvSep 26 14:48
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 26 14:48
Techrights-secare there some percentages (and rate of decline) to cite in either the summarySep 26 14:50
Techrights-secor the body?Sep 26 14:50
Techrights-secAnd what is the rate of decline over the course of these last 3, 6, or 9 months?Sep 26 14:50
schestowitz-TRah, that's tricky Sep 26 14:51
schestowitz-TRit dpeneds what you measureSep 26 14:51
schestowitz-TRi cover it  in the videoSep 26 14:51
schestowitz-TRif I stick to this publicatino pipeline, I will do a playlist file so that processing of the files can be done with minimal interventionSep 26 14:53
schestowitz-TRi also want to find a better way to show the progress bar on an external pcSep 26 14:53
schestowitz-TRso that i can see issues and progression betterSep 26 14:53
schestowitz-TRwe've under-utilisede the video pipeline latelySep 26 14:54
Techrights-secackSep 26 15:09
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schestowitz-TRdraftSep 26 15:20
Techrights-seccheckingSep 26 15:20
Techrights-secIt is important to note that the kind of people who would work at M$ wouldSep 26 15:21
Techrights-secnot be advantageous for others to hire, they'd fail on both technical skillsSep 26 15:21
Techrights-secand, especially, ethics.Sep 26 15:21
Techrights-secFurthermore they appear to prioritize loyalty toSep 26 15:23
Techrights-secmicrosoft as a movement over even the survival of their new paymasters.  InSep 26 15:23
Techrights-seceffect they remain employed by M$ but with another company paying the paychecksSep 26 15:23
Techrights-secinstead. Sep 26 15:23
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_VisasSep 26 15:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft - Offshoring and Visas - TechrightsSep 26 15:39
schestowitz-TRi will add some links to clarify thisSep 26 15:39
Techrights-secThanks.  And some text for the links, please, so they make sense also in Gemini Sep 26 15:39
Techrights-sectoo.  Sep 26 15:39
schestowitz-TRhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_VisasSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRthis page is very vey very oldSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRat least it is in gemini alsoSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRthe decline//demise of microsoft is already happeningSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRbut we falsely assume the media would properly report on itSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRinstead it's like the irqui info ministerSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TR*iraqiSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRsame for icbmSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TRalways dominated a lot of the media and narrativeSep 26 15:41
schestowitz-TReven when ibm goes down in flames for over a decade alreadySep 26 15:41
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Techrights-seccheckingSep 26 16:06
Techrights-secMight mention a few standalone IRC clients and several non Libera networks.Sep 26 16:06
Techrights-secMaybe even have a few lines about how IRC networks are structured.Sep 26 16:06
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schestowitz-TRdraftSep 26 16:18
schestowitz-TRadded a very long paragraphSep 26 16:18
schestowitz-TRthat can help add some new peopleSep 26 16:18
schestowitz-TRmark (cubexyz) came back some days agoSep 26 16:19
schestowitz-TRbeen around since the early yearsSep 26 16:19
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Techrights-seccheckingSep 26 16:28
Techrights-secThanks.  Is there a list of IRC networks to link to somewhere?Sep 26 16:28
Techrights-secttps://netsplit.de/networks/Sep 26 16:28
Techrights-sechttps://search.mibbit.com/networksSep 26 16:28
Techrights-sechttps://search.mibbit.com/add_network.phpSep 26 16:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-search.mibbit.com | IRC NetworksSep 26 16:28
Techrights-sechttps://netsplit.de/networks/?query=techrightsSep 26 16:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-search.mibbit.com | Add your networkSep 26 16:28
Techrights-secMOTD needs replacementSep 26 16:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-netsplit.de | NO TITLESep 26 16:28
schestowitz-TRwill plug in some listsSep 26 16:28
schestowitz-TRyou can write a new welcoming messageSep 26 16:28
schestowitz-TRor we can edit collaborativelySep 26 16:28
Techrights-secThe list in netsplit.de could label #techrights as the /official/ channelSep 26 16:33
schestowitz-TRprefer not to mention but not a secret either: i keep one machine connected to the old channel in both other network, logging to the sameSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRfileSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRin effetc merging them inSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRbut hardly anything happens there anywaySep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRso the techrights channel is basically logging from 3 different network to the same log fileSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRonly one has any signal in itSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRsignal LEFTSep 26 16:38
schestowitz-TRthere used to be someSep 26 16:38
Techrights-secOk. Sep 26 16:38
Techrights-secThe post could have pointed out that there are multiple channels per network,Sep 26 16:38
Techrights-secsince that is something newcomers might not be aware of.  Sep 26 16:38
Techrights-secackSep 26 16:38
Techrights-secI don't suppose there is a way to close the old ones so that no new clientsSep 26 16:39
Techrights-seccan join them?Sep 26 16:39
Techrights-secs/old/wrong/Sep 26 16:39
schestowitz-TRi am just a guest thereSep 26 16:39
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schestowitz-TRdraftSep 26 16:55
Techrights-seccheckingSep 26 16:56
Techrights-secotr; might mention that GNU provides much of the user-space for GNU/Linux distrootr: and even a little for other systems up to and including MacOS and FreeBSep 26 16:56
Techrights-secSDSep 26 16:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.oreilly.com/library/view/open-sources/1565925823/ch06.htmlSep 26 16:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-gnulinuxSep 26 16:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch01s02.html.enSep 26 16:56
Techrights-secobligatory : https://www.gnu.org/Sep 26 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.oreilly.com | 5. The GNU Operating System and the Free Software Movement - Open Sources [Book]Sep 26 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What Is GNU/Linux? | PCMagSep 26 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debian.org | 1.2. What is GNU/Linux?Sep 26 16:56
Techrights-secfor later, regarding Halloween Documents: Sep 26 16:56
Techrights-sechttps://www.theguardian.com/books/firstchapters/story/0,6761,471281,00.htmlSep 26 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | The GNU Operating System and the Free Software MovementSep 26 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Rebel Code: Linus Torvalds, Open Source, and the War for the Soul of Software by Glyn Moody | First chapters | guardian.co.uk BooksSep 26 16:56
Techrights-secbiabSep 26 16:56
Techrights-secackSep 26 17:21
schestowitz-TRadded all the linksSep 26 17:44
schestowitz-TRlast draft (6th video)Sep 26 17:44
Techrights-seccheckingSep 26 17:44
Techrights-sec"The corruption at the European Patent Office (EPO) is ..."Sep 26 17:44
Techrights-seca few words about why Campinos and Batistelli belong in prison would helpSep 26 17:44
Techrights-secthe paragraph about copyright trolling breaks the flow, maybe it should go Sep 26 17:44
Techrights-seccloser to the end?Sep 26 17:44
Techrights-secReally only the first paragraph covers the European Patent Office, so if itSep 26 17:44
Techrights-secis not the main topic of the post, the first paragraph in the body shouldSep 26 17:45
Techrights-secmap out the flow and tie together the subsequent three paragraphsSep 26 17:45
Techrights-sec(The summary though is fine as it is)Sep 26 17:45
Techrights-sec(the acronym EPO needs to be spelled out in the first non-summary paragraph)Sep 26 17:59
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Techrights-secbreaking: https://text.npr.org/1125109303Sep 26 21:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Putin grants Russian citizenship to Edward SnowdenSep 26 21:47
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schestowitz-TRthanks, checking grammar nowSep 26 22:15
schestowitz-TR[topic] Google Photos Corruopted, Highlighting Dangers of Clown Computing Sep 26 22:15
schestowitz-TR*CorruptedSep 26 22:15
schestowitz-TRthe lessons learned are, even large companies cannot be relied upon with your dsta; in fact, they don't value this data and won't make a specialSep 26 22:15
schestowitz-TReffort to protect or restore itSep 26 22:15
schestowitz-TRwith Picaza, they just tore down people's tools and data, purely for business reasons Sep 26 22:15
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schestowitz[22:53] <techrights-news> "The solution is to only use the spellchecker options that keep the data on your computer—and don’t send it into the cloud..." THE CLOWN!! https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/leaking-passwords-through-the-spellchecker.htmlSep 26 22:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Leaking Passwords through the Spellchecker - Schneier on SecuritySep 26 22:54
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